Ask the Road Crew

Late October means it's getting dark earlier, deer can be on the road and all sorts of commuting complications could emerge. Ask our experts from MoDOT, St. Louis and St. Louis County all your commuting questions in the weekly Road Crew chat on Wednesday, Oct 26 at 1 p.m.

  • One quick note from a couple weeks ago. One of the chat participants asked about installing flashing yellow arrows at WB Lafayette to SB I-55. There are two left turn lanes (turning onto Truman) that have a good distance to turn at that intersection -- installing flashing yellow arrows with that condition aren't safe. Andrew Gates, MoDOT Communications
  • Thanks for hosting these chats. This question is for the City. Underneath the River Des Peres Blvd bridge that goes over Chippewa/Watson there are a couple of potholes in the east bound lanes. In fact, this whole area is a bit rough. Can the potholes be filled in and the area smoothed out? Thanks.
  • The driving surface of Chippewa/Watson is MoDOT's responsibility. I have asked our team to check out and patch the potholes. We have no plans at this time for a new surface on Chippewa/Watson in this area for the forseeable future. Andrew Gates, MoDOT Communications
  • Thanks for hosting these chats. Is there still guardrail to be installed along EB I-64 just West of the Mason overpass where the newly exposed bedrock/bluffs jut out? The proximity to the roadway and possibility of a car veering off the highway and hitting the outcropping head on seems like a fatality/lawsuit waiting to happen. Realizing there are other areas of rock adjacent to local interstates without guardrail, but they tend to be parallel to road and not jutting out as much.
  • Yes, there is still guard rail to be installed on the I-64 widening project. Andrew Gates, MoDOT Communications
  • I have some questions for the City of St. Louis Traffic Department.
    1. Heading NB Kingshighway approach Vandeventer; you get a right turn arrow when WB Vandeventer Traffic is making a left turn. When that phase has exited. NB Kingshighway gets a green. Can you tell me why the green arrow does not come on with the NB Kingshighway green?
    2. Regarding all the construction work on city streets. Can you tell me why there is so little advance work zone signage for this projects? I’ve been on numerous routes and you do not know there is construction going on until you see a traffic cone or a city vehicle blocking the road? How can this be safe for both the employees and the traveling public. On State Routes there is adequate signage; why can’t this be implemented ion the local side?
    3. When is the vehicle detection is going to be fixed at the Scott Ave intersection? There are backups due to this signal that continue through the I-64 Signal. How can you continue to not even reduce the amount of time on the side street during the PM rush?
  • 1. The NB right arrow does come up with the WB movement. I'd have to check, but I thought perhaps the SB left turn was once allowed on both green ball and green arrow (now it is just on green arrow) - which would not allow the opposing NB right turn to be allowed on green arrow. Regardless, the NB right turn movement is allowed while NB through traffic is being serviced by the green ball indication. 2. Construction projects in areas that are static or dynamic in nature require particular traffic control treatment consistent with the Manual on Uniform Traffic Control Devices (MUTCD) and local practice. Without knowing the exact location you are talking about it is hard to answer regarding the advance signage locations for the work area. Please let us know where you are concerned about. 3. In previous chats I have indicated that the detection at Jefferson and Scott will be repaired in November. I will follow up with the chat community once it has been completed.
  • A while back I asked about the manhole covers on Chippewa between Hampton and Jamieson. You were doubtful much could be done, but I notice recently that several have improved, and the most damaging one is vastly better. Thanks much for any hand you had in this.
  • I notified our streets division to look at the situation. I'm glad it has improved!
  • Is there a chance to get the lights on Chippewa west from Jamieson synchronized? It's the ones at Creighton and Mackenzie that are messed up. I only notice it westbound, not matter what time of day. Eastbound seems to run OK.
  • Chippewa & Creighton is the City's signal and the Mackenzie signal (Dierbergs) is MoDOT's. The signal at Creighton is not physically connected via fiber optic cable to our nearest signal at Jamieson (which is connected to the east to our signal system). In addition, the signal equipment at the intersection of Creighton is antiquated and in need of upgrade. We have discussed already internally the possibility of interconnecting this signal with our system and then coordinating with MoDOT to provide improved signal progression along this stretch of Chippewa. Due to the magnitude of the improvements to be made it would require a federal grant with a 20% local match. We are pursuing packaging this location with some others (perhaps Jamieson and Lansdowne) in the City for a federal grant application in the near future.
  • Any estimated date for opening the EB on-ramp to I-64 just before Mason?
  • We still have an overhead sign to install and some guard rail to extend. We'll open it up when everything is done. We appreciate your patience. Andrew Gates, MoDOT Communications
  • I apologize if this has been addressed/I missed it, but - I'd like an update regarding the complaints by myself and others about the poor, utility work patch-related condition of the right N-bound of Kingshighway between the Christy merge and Chippewa. has it been inspected? Are improvements planned? Thanks.
  • Our streets division will follow up with the contractor on your concerns.
  • On WB Forest Park Ave at Sarah Street, the light to turn left/south on Sarah is not working ideally. You must sit through 3 lights to turn, 1 to wait, 2 for the light to detect you, and 3 to actually have an arrow given. This is leading to traffic to do u-turns later on and some people running the light. Is there a way you can look at this sensitivity or even determine if it might qualify for a green solid/yellow flashing arrow?
  • Our traffic engineers will check this out.
  • The brand new trolley crossings at Lindell and DeBaliviere are quiet rough. Is this the best they could do, or will they be getting additional work?
  • There is final paving to occur once the work in the areas have been completed that will provide a smoother experience through it.
  • Thanks for the information regarding the light at Creighton and Chippewa. Isn't there anything that be done as a temporary fix until you can get the lights in sync with Jamieson and Mackenzie? It seems like a waste of gas getting stopped at that light only to get stopped at Mackenzie. Can the green light for the people exiting the shopping center at Creighton be when the people at Jamieson have a red light? Is it really that difficult to coordinate them better?
  • We will see what our traffic engineers can do to make this better until a permanent solution can be made.
  • The standing water at 141 and 364 - do these ponds get sprayed for mosquitos - are they ever drained - the water gets a little ripe at times
  • Those are a part of the wetlands around and within Creve Coeur Park -- we do minimal maintenance -- mostly cutting grass. Because it's wetlands, you often need a permit to do more than that. Andrew Gates, MoDOT Communications
  • I've mentioned NB Kingshighway between Christy and Chippewa on at least three previous chats and nothing has ever been done about it. Each time, it's the same answer, "Our streets division will follow up with the contractor on your concerns." This rough pavement is from utility work completed YEARS ago, and is now compounded by new work. Nobody rides the right-hand, northbound lane because of it. I've asked Mr. Runde to drive that stretch in his OWN car (not one owned by the City - because I don't want my tax $$$ going to fix a car that will be damaged by the shoddy workmanship that my $$$ are already paying for).
  • I understand your frustration, I have been told this will be resolved within 30 days.
  • University City maintains this stretch of Delmar, so you'll need to contact the muni. David Wrone, St. Louis County
  • I'm puzzled, don't know whether this is StL County of U. City. There are 3 left arrows for 3 directions at Delmar and Kingsland, but there is no left arrow for going west on Delmar to south on Kingsland, which is how to get to the U. City post office, and into Ames Place. Car usually have to wait till the last minute to get past eastbound Delmar traffic which has the ROW, and if there is a lot of eastbound, sometimes only one or two can make the left turn on the yellow light.
  • I was wondering if someone could look at the signal on St Charles Rock Rd and Depaul Hospital in Bridgeton. In the morning rush, the green light coming out of DePaul has been staying green, even though nobody is coming through. Thanks!
  • I have passed it along to our signal team to check out. You can always share this information with our customer service team 24/7 at 275-1500. Andrew Gates, MoDOT Communications
  • During the first week of November, Shackelford Road will be reduced to a single lane in each direction between Teakwood Manor Drive and Lindsay Lane in Florissant.

    The lane reduction is expected to be in effect for at least one year, and will enable a St. Louis County contractor to remove and replace a box culvert bridge, and utility companies the opportunity to relocate several service lines located near the bridge.

    Officials warn that the reduction of driving lanes from Shackelford’s current four lanes (two in each direction) will seriously affect the flow of traffic at and near this section of Shackelford Road.

    “Approximately 36,000 vehicles drive Shackelford Road every day, which makes it one of the most heavily traveled roads in our entire system,” observed Dr. Nichalos Gardner, director of St. Louis County’s Departments of Transportation and Public Works. “The reduction of lanes between Teakwood Manor and Lindsay will significantly slow the movement of traffic on this section of the road. We regret this temporary inconvenience, but once our project is complete, motorists and pedestrians alike will have a vastly improved road and sidewalk system.”

    The culvert replacement and utility relocation work is part of St. Louis County’s $7.6 million Shackelford Road improvement project. In addition to widening Shackelford between Charbonier and Humes from four lanes to five lanes, St. Louis County’s contractor will replace every sidewalk panel on both sides of the road, build dozens of wheelchair-accessible curb ramps and signalize Northwest Middle School’s entrance onto Shackelford.

    The additional (fifth) lane will be a shared “left” turning lane running between the two northbound and two southbound driving lanes. Officials say the lane will greatly reduce rear-end collisions and vastly improve the flow of traffic on Shackelford.

    “In Shackelford’s current configuration, a left-turning vehicle almost invariably stacks up all the cars behind it, while the driver waits for an opportunity to execute the turn,” Gardner explained. “The new lane will give these motorists their own lane, and allow “through” traffic to continue on, unimpeded.”

    Also effective next week, all traffic will be shifted to the east half of Shackelford. This will allow the County’s contractor and utility crews to begin the process of sidewalk and curb removal and service line relocation necessary to create space for the new lane.

    The Shackelford Road Project is scheduled to be complete by the fall of 2018. David Wrone, St. Louis County
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